• fyr

Tito’s granddaughter sides with Greece against FYROM

Svetlana Broz believes that Skopje should make amends

“Although my grandfather, Josip Broz Tito, ‘gave’ the name ‘Macedonia’ to one of the six constituent republics of Yugoslavia, it is obvious that this act did not aim to create irredentist claims with its neighbours, with which Yugoslavia developed friendly relations and fruitful cooperation”.

With this statement, Svetlana Broz, granddaughter of the historic leader of Yugoslavia, took a stance on the issue that has created animosity between Greece and the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM).

Now that a new round of negotiations between the two countries have been undertaken by the United Nations, in a climate of optimism, following the change of leadership in FYROM, which abandoned the nationalistic hard-line favoured by Nikola Gruevski, Svetlana Broz’s statement weighs in significantly on the matter.

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“The term ‘Macedonia’ has always been used for a wider geographical area, approximately 51% of which is part of Greece, 38% of which is in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) and 9% of which is in Bulgaria”, she said, making reference to the history of Alexander the Great and the kingdom of Macedonia as being part of the Hellenic history and stating that anyone objecting this, should enter an academic debate, not a political one.

“It would be absurd, therefore, on Skopje’s part, to insist on using the term ‘Macedonia’ on an exclusive basis. I would therefore like the leadership in Skopje to do their best to find a solution”, she added.

FYROM’s new government, led by the moderate Zoran Zaev has made steps to approach Greece and rebuild severed ties.

Source: neoskosmos.com

  • Kosta Drossos

    I am from a town in Nothern Greece Florina which was Macedonia(Slavic) and we still speak the Language there to this day and pretty much through all of Northern Greece. But if you go to the Republic of Macedonia no one seems to speak or understand Greek we have to communicate in English Why is that you think. Also my Grandparents were forced to either change their surname being a Greek type or face exile and a horrible fate like many other Aegean Macedonians pretty much what the Jewish faced in the Hands of Hitlers Germany.

    I totally disagree with Tito’s Granddaughter and her view of opion’s she should be more worried about the current situation between Serbia and Kosovo’s border and naming dispute. Macedonia is even referred to as its own country in the bible where one of the the apostle travel’s to Macedonia and then to Greece to spread to word of God and Christianity to Gentiles(Non Jewish)People and found the church as we know today.

    The true fact is the Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia were meant to liberate Macedonia from Turkish occupation which they managed to do but then divided the land upon themselves officially(1913) known as the Bucharest treaty.

    Tito created the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes and adopted the name Yugoslavia. In 1946, Yugoslavia became a socialist federation of six republics: Croatia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Macedonia. At this time, it adopted the name Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRY).

    I do not see why there needs to be such hatred and a ongoing dispute over this situation. Why can’t they call themselves the Republic of Macedonia and we call our province Greek Macedonia and the job is done. If anyone has suffered from this it has been my family and I want the truth to be told.

    • themanews

      – “we still speak the Language there to this day and pretty much through all of Northern Greece”
      There are 3000-4000 people in northern Greece speaking the Slavomacedonian dialect, most of them around the wider area of Florina. Through all of Northern Greece? I come from Northern Greece and I really don’t think so…

      – “But if you go to the Republic of Macedonia no one seems to speak or understand Greek we have to communicate in English Why is that you think.”
      The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) have a lot to answer to regarding the Greeks at the south of their country, especially at the city of Monastiri. The terrorism all throughout the communist years until today has made them go underground. In 1992 they sent a letter to the Greek Prime Minister, the President and the political parties asking for their help to be able to speak Greek freely without the fear of prosecution. FYROM has even priests in jail AS WE SPEAK, for simply being against the creation of the “Macedonian” autonomous church.

      – “Macedonia is even referred to as its own country in the bible”
      Macedonia was under Roman rule back then. The area was, as it is today, a regional administrative division. Besides, that doesn’t “prove” that the Macedonian were anything else other than Greek.

      – Look up the name Jovan Cvijic (Peter J. Taylor & Colin Flint, “Political Geography: World-Economy, Nation-State, and Locality”, London: Prentice Hall, 2000, pages 209 – 211) and you will see the story behind the name “Macedonia”, when Serbia begun using it and why.

      – You talk about hatred. There is no hatred, at least not that much from the Greek side. It is the schools in FYROM that teach children how the…“bad Greeks conquered the ‘Macedonian’ land”.

      – “Why can’t they call themselves the Republic of Macedonia and we call our province Greek Macedonia and the job is done.”
      Obviously, you haven’t read enough Balkan history. The Balkans have earned the name “The Arsenal of Europe” -where one spark is enough to make the area go up in flames- for a reason…

  • Kosta Drossos

    I tried to post some real information regarding this matter but this site was scared from the truth and therefore has blocked it. What is the use of comment if you are not allowed to have your say? I thought Greece had freedom of speech but it goes to show that there is no true Democracy!!!!!!

    • themanews

      Your comment has been published days ago. And it has been answered too.

  • themanews

    Mr. Jovanovski,

    – Biased opinion? Someone who disagrees with you doesn’t mean that he/she is biased…

    – I didn’t mean to insult you, but you wrote:
    “Why can’t they call themselves the Republic of Macedonia and we call our province Greek Macedonia and the job is done.”
    Well, Mr. Jovanovski, someone who writes something like that, obviously “hasn’t read enough Balkan history” and has no grasp of the Balkan mentality. Yugoslavia and Kosovo are still smoking from the fires of the ’90s. Haven’t we learned anything yet?…

    – Regarding the two quotes about Greece and Hellas etc. I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say. That Macedonia was included to Greece by the Romans or something like that?
    This issue (if there ever was one…) is extremely easy to clarify:
    1. The Macedonians participated in the Olympic games, were as everyone knows, only Greeks were allowed to participate.
    2. They had the same religion and the same language.
    3. The felt Greeks. The Macedonian king Alexander the 1st went personally to Athens to warn the rest of the Greeks about the Persian army that was approaching. And he did that regardless of the fact that he had been forced to side with the Persian king to save his people, since resisting him alone would be suicidal.
    Also…which encyclopedia is that?

    – William Ewart Gladstone.(British prime minister) (1897)
    You really bring a British politician as an argument? Really?… Especially at a time when the end of the once mighty Ottoman Empire could be seen in the horizon? The Balkans were about to be divided and everybody -especially the big powers- wanted to have a say…

    – Georgi Bakalov: “peasants of a single nationality speaking a SLAVIC language”
    Thank God, we agree on something!

    – Regarding the Greeks in FYROM. Do you accept the fact that there are Greeks there, especially in Monastiri? And if yes, how many? There is a very specific reason I am asking this particular question…

    – When you have a neighboring country that claims part of your land, you try to make sure you protect yourself. Which brings us to the next point…

    – …any comment about Jovan Cvijic? (Peter J. Taylor & Colin Flint, “Political Geography: World-Economy, Nation-State, and Locality”, London: Prentice Hall, 2000, pages 209 – 211)

    – “Neither Bulgar nor Serb,” said one such old woman, defiantly, when we left the Monastir road at Dobraveni. “I am Macedonian only and I am sick of war.”
    Correct me if I am wrong but this doesn’t mean she is not Greek. She is not Bulgarian or Serb. As I am sure you know Greeks -of course- identify themselves as Macedonians. That is part of the problem we are trying to solve in the first place!

    – About your language in general. It is a dialect that especially the Bulgarians of the west speak & understand. (Do I even have to say that it has nothing to do with the ancient Macedonian Kindom?…)
    When you want to have good relations with your neighbors, some things must be clear and not open to interpretations that could be used as excuses in times of turmoil to change your borders.
    Hence, I am sorry but “Macedonian” is way too charged with meanings to be accepted. Especially when politicians from FYROM are looking for a southern exit to the Aegean/Mediterranean Sea…
    Tito, just took a dialect/language and some local traditions -that are not exclusively found in your culture may I add- and turned it into a nation. No after some generations, of course, you feel you are a nation. It’s done.

    But, nobody questions your…existence! Yes, you do exist as a nation, now.
    It’s just that we cannot accept that you will exist at the expense of Greece and its history, with certain people in your country that practically steal our past and through a social engineering process try to make us look like the “bad guys”. That’s how troubles begin in our neighborhood…

    As surprising as it may sound to you, we don’t hate you. Extremists exist in every nation. We are talking about the absolute majority here. I am not sure I can say the same about your people, though. As I wrote in my previous answer, the FYROM governments (not some small extremist group) teach children in the schools about the “bad Greeks that conquered our country”, with maps of Northern Greece -including Thessaloniki- being the “occupied territories”…
    I didn’t see you writing any comment about that…

    Greece has nothing to prove about Macedonia.
    Nothing at all.

    • Kosta Drossos

      This issue (if there ever was one…) is extremely easy to clarify:
      1. The Macedonians participated in the Olympic games, were as everyone knows, only Greeks were allowed to participate…?
      Answer 1) Normally when you a conquered by Macedonians (Barbarians) Then I think one has little say in the matter of who may compete in the Olympics! More to the point nearly every nation compete’s in the Olympic’s today……

      2. They had the same religion and the same language.
      Answer 2) We should also not fail to mention three great centers of Greek religion: Olympia, in Elis, as the chief sanctuary of Zeus; Delphi, in Phocis, as the oracular seat of Apollo; and Eleusis, in Attica, as the pilgrim-shrine to which all Greeks resorted who would be initiated in the mysteries of Demeter and Cora. Argos also possessed a far-famed shrine of Hera, and Thermopile and Calauria were the centers at which met the councils of influential amphictyonies. Epidaurus was famous for her sanctuary of Asclepius. Delos, a little island in mid-Aegean, celebrated as a sanctuary of Apollo and as the meeting-place of a most influential amphictyony, falls without the limits of Greece proper; but Dodona, in Southern Epirus, should be mentioned as the most ancient and venerable abode of the oracle of Zeus. The Greeks, incorrigibly particularistic in politics, because of the almost insuperable barriers erected by Nature between neighboring peoples in the lofty mountain ranges, were in a measure united by their religion which, like the sea, another element making for intercourse and union, touched them at nearly every point.
      3. The felt Greeks. The Macedonian king Alexander the 1st went personally to Athens to warn the rest of the Greeks about the Persian army that was approaching. And he did that regardless of the fact that he had been forced to side with the Persian king to save his people, since resisting him alone would be suicidal.
      Answer 3) The Battle of Megalopolis was fought in 331 BC between Spartan led forces and Macedonia. Alexander’s regent Antipater led the Macedonians to victory over King Agis III.
      In the autumn of 333 BC, the Spartan King Agis III had met with the Persian commanders Pharnabazus and Autophradates, somewhere in the Aegean Sea, and revealed to them his plans for a war against Alexander. The Persians agreed to support Agis; however, they could only spare him 30 talents and 10 ships. Agis also recruited the Greek mercenary survivors of Issus – who had served in the Persian army – a force of 8,000 veterans. In the summer of 331 BC, Agis defeated Coragus, the Macedonian general in command of the Peloponnese and the garrison of Corinth.
      Meanwhile, Antipater, Alexander’s regent in Macedonia, was occupied in Thrace where the Macedonian general, Memnon, was involved in a rebellion. After the rebellion was resolved, Antipater marched against King Agis.[1] Antipater had recruited a large force, over 40,000 strong, with a core of Macedonian troops and substantial numbers of tribal warriors from the northern fringes of Macedonia, reinforced with troops from his Greek allies.
      The final battle, fought near Megalopolis in Arcadia, ended in defeat for the Spartans. Early in the battle Antipater’s lines broke, but in the end it was the sheer weight of numbers that brought victory to the Macedonians. It is written that 5,300 died on the Spartan side and 3,500 on the Macedonian side.[2] For the Spartans that meant a death toll of over 25 percent. King Agis, now wounded and unable to stand, ordered his men to leave him behind to face the advancing Macedonian army so that he could buy his men time to retreat. Diodorus states that the Spartan king slew several enemy soldiers before being finally killed by a javelin.

      By the way aren’t you Greek’s claiming Spartan History as well?

      I do not really give two hoots about claiming ancient history. But more to the fact of what occurred unjustly to the Macedonian people 105 years ago…..

      Also…which encyclopedia is that?
      Answer 4) “Encyclopedia Britannica 1983.”

      “bad Greeks that conquered our country”, with maps of Northern Greece -including Thessaloniki- being the “occupied territories”…
      I didn’t see you writing any comment about that…

      Here is the original article I posted in relation to your delusional Propaganda. Greece has nothing to prove about Macedonia.
      Nothing at all?

      January 4, 1919
      Sister Augustine Bewicke on the Macedonian autonomy
      St. Paul’s Hospital, Salonika
      Dear Sir,
      Please excuse the liberty I take in writing you, it is
      because the final settlement in the Balkans is of vital
      interest to the Catholics in these countries. – I have been
      33 years in this Mission, the Uniate Catholic Mission, which
      at the beginning of the Second Balkan War counted about
      10,000 Catholics.
      The Treaty of Bucharest, which divided Macedonia
      without any regard to justice, was the cause of these poor
      people being dispersed on account of their Slav language,
      which was forbidden in Churches and schools. – The Bishop
      had his residence in Salonika, he has now been in exile more
      then 3 years, his priests are dispersed, his flock is indeed
      without pastors, nor do we have any hope of his return to
      any place under Greek or Serbian rule. – The Greeks will not
      admit the Slav language in Churches or schools; the
      inhabitants of Macedonia are in the great majority Slavs;
      they call themselves Macedonians, and what they desire and
      what we ardently desire for them is an autonomy under
      European control. – In whatever way Macedonia might be
      divided, the people would be always discontented, and would
      fight again as soon as possible. The only hope I can foresee
      is in strong autonomy, which neither Greeks nor Bulgars nor
      Serbs would dare attack; then the Macedonians, who are
      really intelligent and docile when they are well treated,
      would peacefully develop this beautiful fertile country…
      Surely Europe will not leave Macedonia under people whom the
      Macedonians hate, and whom they will continually fight…
      Public Record Office (London)
      FO 608/44. Peace Conference (British delegation), 1919.
      This is true facts recorded in “British Archives.” Not some Greco non-sense fairytale, That your mum taught before bed time.

      Your question?- Regarding the Greeks in “FYROM.” Do you accept the fact that there are Greeks there, especially in Monastiri? And if yes, how many? There is a very specific reason I am asking this particular question…

      To answer you correctly according to the last census there is less than 100 Greek/dual nationals sorry Slavic Macedonians who changed their surnanes, who live there sorry. And if you did in fact know your Balkan history than you would be more than aware that the correct geographic name of the city is “BITOLA.”

      More to the fact is like referring to Greece as Achaia or Athenian which made up all the provinces of Ancient Greece.

      “Macedonia was it’s own territory” as did Isocrates and Aristotle mention in ancient Greek scripture.

      The lord Jesus watches out for those who are righteous in his name. But will punish those who do evil and acts of Sin. Lying is a sin and the Devil is the father of all lyes.

      I hope you have a very merry Christmas in Jesus’s name Aman.

      • themanews

        Mr. Jovanovski,

        To begin with, since you have repeatedly admitted the fact that you have no connection whatsoever with ancient Greece and/or ancient Macedonia etc., I really don’t see the reason you write about the ancient history.
        Anyway, here we go:

        Answer 1) Macedonians participated in the Olympic games before the Macedonian rule over the southern city-states.

        You write: “More to the point nearly every nation compete’s in the Olympic’s today……”
        – What does that have to do with what we are talking about here?…

        Answer 2) So, what’s your point?…

        Answer 3) The Greeks, as everyone knows, had the bad habit of fighting civil wars all the time. And anyway, I was not referring to the Battle of Megalopolis…

        You write: “By the way aren’t you Greek’s claiming Spartan History as well?”
        – Claiming Spartan History as well? So, to you Slavomacedonians, questioning the entire Greek history is something like a national sport, right?… 😀

        You write: “I do not really give two hoots about claiming ancient history.”
        – Sure, that’s why almost half of all your posts are about the ancient Greek history…
        Besides, there are many people in your country who actually do give “two hoots” and that’s where the problem begins…

        Answer 4) Since you give bibliography, here is an extremely rough list of bibliography about the Greek origins of the ancient Macedonians:

        Worthington 2014, Chapter Two: Alexander’s Inheritance, p. 10
        Zacharia 2008, Simon Hornblower, “Greek Identity in the Archaic and Classical Periods”, pp. 55–58
        Joint Association of Classical Teachers 1984, pp. 50–51
        Errington 1990
        Fine 1983, pp. 607–608
        Hall 2000, p. 64
        Hammond 2001, p. 11
        Jones 2001, p. 21
        Osborne 2004, p. 127
        Hammond 1989, pp. 12–13
        Hammond 1993, p. 97
        Starr 1991, pp. 260, 367
        Toynbee 1981, p. 67
        Worthington 2008, pp. 8, 219
        Chamoux 2002, p. 8
        Cawkwell 1978, p. 22
        Perlman 1973, p. 78
        Hamilton 1974, Chapter 2: The Macedonian Homeland, p. 23
        Bryant 1996, p. 306
        O’Brien 1994, p. 25 etc., etc., etc.

        But since you are Slavs, as everyone knows and you have repeatedly admitted in your posts, and since you don’t give “two hoots about claiming ancient history”, it’s pointless to continue talking about it…

        – Regarding Sister Augustine Bewicke’s letter. The fact that a Catholic, non- Slavomacedonian writes the letter in 1919 is by itself very interesting.
        Do I have to lecture anyone about the way the Vatican’s involvement in international diplomacy & politics and in the Balkans more specifically?
        Do I have to point out the geopolitical & geostrategic interests of certain powers in the region, especially in those times (1919)?
        Do I have to write -again- about the work of Jovan Cvijic?

        So, yes. You exist. And you have a country now.

        But is it me or do I see more than a hind of the “the-bad-Greeks-have-conquered-our- land” mentality in what you write? In other words, there actually is irredentism in you and -by the looks of it- in your people as well. It seems that you do support such statements by your politicians and diplomats and you stand by all these things they teach against Greece to the children in FYROM’s schools.
        So, do I have to further explain to you or to anyone who is still trying to understand what the whole “FYROM name dispute with Greece” is all about?
        Do I have to explain why we are so sensitive about it?
        Do I have to explain AGAIN all about the Balkan history and why this area has the reputation of being the “arsenal of Europe” always ready to ignite?
        Do I have to explain why we must not allow this to continue?
        Do I have to explain why the solution to this dispute must leave no loose ends open to “interpretations” for the future?

        – “according to the last census there is less than 100 Greek/dual nationals”
        100? One Hundred?? According to the…census???
        That is exactly my point! So, what happened to all the Greeks of Monastiri? Seriously, what have you done to them? I mean, you are supposed to be the good guys (unlike us, the “bad Greeks”) according to your narrative.
        I know you don’t accept it, but the Greeks in Monastiri and the surrounding area, are suppressed, terrorized and too afraid to tell what they are to ANY census.
        I guess if I ask you if there are any Greeks in northern Greece you will answer something like “not many”, right? 😀

        FYROM, however, has a number of issues to clarify on this (you are in Greece and you speak Greek so the following won’t be a problem for you):
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgshwhBNnJM
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5rwJjSCFTE
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGBbTLv8raw
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEywo-Freyk
        http://www.espressonews.gr/περιεχόμενο/38779/αικατερίνη-βίδα-υπάρχουν-300000-ελληνες-στα-σκόπια
        https://www.karfitsa.gr/ΦάκελοςΒλαχόφωνοι-Έλληνες-των-Σκοπί/
        https://www.karfitsa.gr/Άδ-Γεωργιάδης-Μεγάλο-και-υπαρκτό-ζήτη/
        http://www.dimokratianews.gr/content/73563/i-megali-elliniki-meionotita-sta-skopia
        http://www.thessnews.gr/article/19139/apokleistiko-brikame-tous-kryptochristianous-ton-skopion-fotovideo

        Regarding the name Monastiri or Bitola, they are both correct. You call it Bitola, we call it Monastiri. What’s the problem with that?

        – “’Macedonia was it’s own territory’ as did Isocrates and Aristotle mention in ancient Greek scripture” you write.
        That doesn’t really mean anything. “Own territory” could very easily mean, a kingdom of their own.
        Also: “Greece and Macedonia are one” («Ἔστι μὲν οὖν Ἑλλὰς καὶ ἡ Μακεδονία»), Strabo, Greek geographer.
        Do you really want to start the ancient history debate again?…

        – The truth shall set you free, my friend…

        Look, I don’t think either of us is going to change his positions or convince the other.
        Roughly, both our positions have been presented.
        We can just leave it here as it is.

  • themanews

    Mr. Jovanovski,

    – Biased opinion? Someone who disagrees with you doesn’t mean that he/she is biased…

    – I didn’t mean to insult you, but you wrote:
    “Why can’t they call themselves the Republic of Macedonia and we call our province Greek Macedonia and the job is done.”
    Well, Mr. Jovanovski, someone who writes something like that, obviously “hasn’t read enough Balkan history” and has no grasp of the Balkan mentality. Yugoslavia and Kosovo are still smoking from the fires of the ’90s. Haven’t we learned anything yet?…

    – Regarding the two quotes about Greece and Hellas etc. I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say. That Macedonia was included to Greece by the Romans or something like that? This issue (if there ever was one…) is extremely easy to clarify:
    1. The Macedonians participated in the Olympic games, were as everyone knows, only Greeks were allowed to participate.
    2. They had the same religion and the same language.
    3. The felt Greeks. The Macedonian king Alexander the 1st went personally to Athens to warn the rest of the Greeks about the Persian army that was approaching. And he did that regardless of the fact that he had been forced to side with the Persian king to save his people, since resisting him alone would be suicidal.
    Also…which encyclopedia is that?

    – William Ewart Gladstone.(British prime minister) (1897)
    You really bring a British politician as an argument? Really?… Especially at a time when the end of the once mighty Ottoman Empire could be seen in the horizon? The Balkans were about to be divided and everybody -especially the big powers- wanted to have a say…

    – Georgi Bakalov: “peasants of a single nationality speaking a SLAVIC language”
    – H.D Harrison (British, writer, 1938): “The majority were Slav by origin”
    – Andre Vaillant (French, slavicist, 1938): “The concept of “Macedonian Slavic”
    etc. etc. etc.
    Thank God, we agree on something!…
    Why not “Slavomacedonia” the country, “Slavomacedonian” language and “Slavomacedonian” culture, then?

    – Regarding the Greeks in FYROM. Do you accept the fact that there are Greeks there, especially in Monastiri? And if yes, how many? There is a very specific reason I am asking this particular question…

    – When you have a neighboring country that claims part of your land, you try to make sure you protect yourself. Which brings us to the next point…

    – …any comment about Jovan Cvijic? (Peter J. Taylor & Colin Flint, “Political Geography: World-Economy, Nation-State, and Locality”, London: Prentice Hall, 2000, pages 209 – 211)

    – “Neither Bulgar nor Serb,” said one such old woman, defiantly, when we left the Monastir
    road at Dobraveni. “I am Macedonian only and I am sick of war.”
    Correct me if I am wrong but this doesn’t mean she is not Greek. She is not Bulgarian or Serb. As I am sure you know Greeks -of course- identify themselves as Macedonians. That is part of the problem we are trying to solve in the first place!

    – About your language in general (and to cut the long story short). It is a dialect that especially the Bulgarians of the west speak & understand.

    (Do I even have to say that it has nothing to do with the ancient Macedonian Kingdom?…)
    When you want to have good relations with your neighbors, some things must be clear and not open to interpretations that could be used as excuses in times of turmoil to change your borders.
    Hence, I am sorry but “Macedonian” is way too charged with meanings to be accepted.
    Especially when politicians from FYROM are looking for a southern exit to the Aegean/Mediterranean Sea…
    There cannot be any loose ends.
    Tito, just took a dialect/language and some local traditions -that are not exclusively found in your culture may I add- and turned it into a nation. Now after some generations, of course, you feel you are a nation. It’s done.

    Nobody questions your…existence! Yes, you do exist as a nation, now. It’s just that we cannot accept that you will exist at the expense of Greece and its history, with certain people in your country that practically steal our past and through a social engineering process try to convince you that you are the descendants of Alexander the Great and we are the “bad guys”. That’s how troubles begin in our neighborhood…

    As surprising as it may sound to you, we don’t hate you. Extremists exist in every nation. We are talking about the absolute majority here. I am not sure I can say the same about you people, though. “I know it hurts you Greek racist/extremist”, you write proving my point. As I wrote in my previous answer, the elected FYROM governments (not some small extremist group) teach your children in the schools about the “bad Greeks that conquered our country”, with maps of Northern Greece -including Thessaloniki- being the “occupied territories”…
    I didn’t see you writing any comment about that…

    Greece has nothing to prove about Macedonia.
    Nothing at all.

  • themanews

    Our friend decided, for some reason, to delete his comments and his account. We have decided to leave our answers as they are.
    Thank you.