Kas: When I got out of prison, what did Samaras do, can you tell me?

Ba: He was visiting the US

Kas: Yeah, he was in America, but I heard he almost had a stroke.

Ba: Shock and awe! It was a mess -expletive-…he didn’t call me, I told him the things you do…I told him all about it. He wouldn’t have talked to me about this. He called the other two and -expletive-. Athanasiou and Dendias: “You ridiculed me, what is this, I’m a laughing stock!”. It’s all because the previous day he had stated to the american zionist conference that: “it’s finished, I put them behind bars, see ya!” and the next day, you were released.

Kas: With the interrogators that just left us there on that critical stage, what happened? They went back on their statements, after they released us, after they got the others, they went back.

Ba: They let you go for the simple fact that there was no evidence.

Kas: Yeah, alright, there was nothing.

Ba: Nobody called them to pressure them, they all thought it a done deal: “What will the examiner do?” But the examiner HAD NO EVIDENCE. ANYTHING!

Kas: He had no evidence for the others either, though

Ba: But with the others it was more like (at this point he makes a phonecall gesture)

Kas: Who damaged us there?

Ba: Both.

Kas: Dendias and Athanasiou?

Ba: Who else would…

Kas: What does Samaras say about all that? Does he have any clue of what’s going on?

Ba: Nah, at first he didn’t… now that he sees the polls… he thought, as an upper class guy that he is, that, with all this awesome stuff “they’ll drop to 2%”, and I tell him “I’m telling you, they’ll reach 20%”. He tells me: “You’re an -expletive-”

Kas: Who told him to do all this?

Ba: First of all, he’s afraid for himself. You’re cutting him out of overtaking SYRIZA in the polls

Kas: Cutting votes, alright.

Ba: It only makes sense.

Kas: So if we’re cutting away at his votes, he’s gonna put us in jail?

Ba: -Expletive-, it’s unbelievable, unbelievable

Kas: And what about what Roupakiotis said?

Ba:It’s a given, he did it the week he was gonna visit.

Kas: Goutzamani, all these things she did, where I had actual proof that she was right-wing.

Ba: (He makes the sign of the cross)

Kas: She’s all about God.

Ba: Yeap.

Kas: How could she pull all the shameful stuff she did with Vourliotis and the writing up of the findings?

Ba: They convinced her that “they’re pagans, idol worshippers, nazis, and they go against Christianity”

Kas: And who convinced her of such a thing?

Ba: Athanasiou and Dendias

Kas: Go to the DA and tell them who set all this conspiracy up: That Athanasiou gave Goutzamani an order, that Samaras had given Athanasiou an order, and they should all go to trial. If you’re a just man, that’s what you should do.

Ba: If I do this now, there’ll be a preliminary examination for half an hour, then it’ll be filed away.

Kas: You think so?

Ba: For certain! Would I do this with Samaras in the government? Which DA do I go to? Goutzamani is a DA. Should I go and report Goutzamani to herself?

Kas: How did Goutzamani get placed in Areios Pagos?

Ba: They’re from the same village.

Kas: So now he’s just paying back the debt

Ba: Yeah, they come from the same village. Well, they don’t, they come from villages opposite to each other…like that. But they’re almost the same age. They’re from the same place. We don’t have to look further.